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    This is the clearest screencap I could find of the birth announcement, but I thought it was something that definitely needs to be talked about here. The left side definitely says "Mr and Mrs DiLaurentis take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son, Jason Matthew" on the top half, but the bottom is much more difficult to make out except for ending in "Los Angeles, California". The second starts and ends the same way, but has a different name name after "birth of a son", it looks to me like Bradley Todd, but I can't be certain.

    What's the most interesting to me is that the second name is not Charles, and the fact that the birth announcements have different text on the bottom half. Now, it's possible this was a prop made before the name Charles was told to the people in charge of props and was never meant for the text to be readable, but it also could be a clue.

    ETA: Playing with it in photoshop and trying all the guesses revealed this full translation, which I typed out in a post below:

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    • I don't think that it is "Mr. and Mrs. DiLaurentis" it doesn't look like DiLaurentis at all, IMO.

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    • It's just the font. A lot of cursive fonts will do that when you have two capital letters in a name, it'll almost look like a space between both parts, so it looks like "Di Laurentis".

      It is possible that it's another last name, but to me it looks like the second part starts with an "L" and ends with an "S", and with the first part being so short, I'm not sure what else it could be. The first baby name is definitely "J___ Matthew", almost certainly "Jason Matthew", which has me leaning towards DiLaurentis as well.

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    • but there is definitely no "T", which would at least be higher than the other letters. I might be totally wrong, but I really don't think it's DiLaurentis at all...

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    • I agree about the "Jason" part though, so IDK

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    • For that sort of traditional format, the wording would usually be Mr. and Mrs. [Male's First Name] [Surname] or at least the male's first initial. At least for things like wedding invitations and stuff so I imagine it would be the same format for something like a birth announcement that seems just as formal. Although it looks like it might be two letters (sort of looks like SH to me).

      The part throwing me off, as has been mentioned, is the bottom part. They're significantly different. An entire extra line.

      I'm almost tempted to think that perhaps the second child died and that's the extra line and why there is only one shirt. And maybe they weren't a DiLaurentis. Maybe they were adopted by them at some point or they were foster parents. And after some episodes, perhaps some psycho/sociopathic ones, they ended up in Radley. Maybe after Ali's birth when she started getting all the attention. He could blame her for his falling out with his family. Or something. I don't know. There are a lot of holes.

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    • I'm working on matching the wording up in photoshop, I've found a very similar font (though it doesn't seem exact). It's very interesting. You guys are right, it doesn't seem to be DiLaurentis, but nothing else seems to fit right either, any suggestions? This is what I've got with "DiLaurentis" as a placeholder, and it's *really* interesting:

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      Everything else fit perfectly as I had said except for the second name. "Bradley Todd" was a bit too long when I laid it over too ... the second name lays over as a perfect fit however, if I make it Radley Todd
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    • That's interestingggggg!

      Everything always seems to come back to Radley. ;)

      Which goes back to Boo Radley in To Kill A Mockingbird, which has been prevalent throughout the series.

      AND! There's a character named Charles with a poor family life. I remember reading an excellent theory on here about how Truman Capote ties into things and this character is based on him (according to the Wiki) and how he gets swapped around from family member to family member. Charles Baker Harris

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    • I agree about the traditional format...it looks like they used Mr and Mrs. husbands first and last name. Its so hard to read though :( 

      To me, it looks like Mr. and Mrs. Bill? Something? could the last name be Marin?

      Then on the first announcements, it looks like Jason Hastings to me. 

      On the bottom it looks like XXX, California



      Maybe the creators just threw something together, idk lol

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    • Kinda looks like there's two "tt" in the last name and then a "K"

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    • ^^ I think you could be right about the first name being Bill. I tried to think of all the last names, we ever heard in the show and honestly I can't find anyone which would really fit in. Maybe it's a name we don't know yet?

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    • Ashfakjsfhakj

      I lightened, then sharpened the text in this photo

      Lightened

      I tried to rid the dark pixels around the text in this photo

      I also messed around with photoshop and you guys might can make something out of these..they are still very fuzzy 
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    • It looks like the "Jason" one was born in November 1990, while the other says May (not sure of the date or year).

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    • The last name of the parents is too short to be Dilaurentis. The other words match up in length pretty well, but that part doesn't and judging by those birth annoucements, his name doesn't even appear to be Charles in the first place. This leaves me to belive this "Charles is a Dilaurentis" is another red herring.

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    • I've made a few searches on the Internet about what people think to read in these birth annoucement, and here is what I think the most likely to be (for the left one):

      Mr and Mrs ??. ?????

      take pleasure in announcing

      the birth of a son

      Jason Matthew

      on Friday the [date] of November

      nineteen hundred and ninety

      18111 I???? ????? ????? (most probably the adress, not very important)

      Los Angeles California


      The problem is, I'm quite sure it's written "Jason", but the parent's last name is too short to be "DiLaurentis"...

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    • And the right one:

      Mr and Mrs ??. ?????

      take pleasure in announcing

      the birth of a son

      ???? Ted

      Weight ? lbs ? ozs

      on ????? May ????

      Los Angeles California

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    • ^^ IF the birth year is 1990 it can't be Jason, at least not the Jason we know. According to this wikia he is 24. 2012 - 24 = 1988.

      Also he is 7 years older than the liars, who were born 1994-1995. Would also make him born 1987-1988. 

      So either it's not Jason, or it's not 1990, or they made a contunity error. Both possible, but as all the crew members say that they check everything very exactly, I'd rather say it's the first.

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    • It kinda looks like Bethany Jill to me...

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    • Swiftsmileylovatic wrote:
      It looks like Bethany Jill to me...

      Same but, then why "It's a boy"? Doesn't really make sense.

      Interesting side note: name meaning of Jill is "Young". No coincidences.

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    • Yeh I noiticed that!! Yeh I have no clue? Maybe it does..not say that..!?!? Agh I dunno but I agree with you

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    • -JasonsGirl wrote:
      ^^ IF the birth year is 1990 it can't be Jason, at least not the Jason we know. According to this wikia he is 24. 2012 - 24 = 1988.

      Also he is 7 years older than the liars, who were born 1994-1995. Would also make him born 1987-1988. 

      So either it's not Jason, or it's not 1990, or they made a contunity error. Both possible, but as all the crew members say that they check everything very exactly, I'd rather say it's the first.

      Then it's probably not "Jason", because I'm pretty sure it can't be anything else than "hundred and ninety" at the end of the line. And it's not "DiLaurentis" at all.  Anyway, I think the name begins with a J.  

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    • Swiftsmileylovatic wrote:
      It kinda looks like Bethany Jill to me...

      To me it seems a bit short to be Bethany, it lacks some letters.

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    • Swiftsmileylovatic wrote:
      It kinda looks like Bethany Jill to me...

      Both sides very definitely say "the birth of a son", there's no question in that. It's definitely not Bethany Jill.

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    • to me it looks like bethany something alot of theorys are saying charles went from male to female what if its the oppisite and the video in the vault is someone else to confuse the girls we know a loves that or just a girl with short hair. if charles really went from male to female or just wants too he wouldnt ne dressing in tuxedos. 

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    • also why would there be two birth annoncements if they re twins there would only be one so they musnt be twins

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    • Meldi420 wrote:
      It looks like the "Jason" one was born in November 1990, while the other says May (not sure of the date or year).

      I think its May 7 (dunno the year) I'v seen my own birthdate enough times to distinguish it. 

      btw the second name kinda looks like Rodney. Theres only one tall letter so I don't think the name is Radley.

      More: there are no tall letters (b,d,f,h,k,l,t) in the last name of the Mr and Mrs and no letter that go under the line (like g,j,y) So not Laurentis, not Hastings, not Montgomery, not Young, not Harvey, not Fitzgerald. What about Marin or Fields? or Thomas? what if thats Mr and Mrs Ian's parents? It also doesn't look like Kingston. 

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    • ^ You do have a point, Rodney occured to me as a possiblity once I wasn't trying to do it in photoshop at 3:00AM. It seems to fit better.

      It may actually be Marin. I just tried that and it seems to lay over almost perfectly (already tried Thomas which seemed a lttle too long). I can't figure the first initial out though, H or K, maybe? 

      Pretty sure we've got a perfect match on the bottom now (other then the initial). I'll check what's been guessed for the bottom later.

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    • Somebody in the crew said that they bought this randomly for decoration, on twitter can't find the tweet now but maybe it's of no significance

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    • Okay, here it is. The full translation - NOT twins. And ... not who we're thinking. There's rumors this was just a rented prop ... could that be true and it all means nothing?

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      Left side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Jason Matthew on Friday the twenty seventh of November ninteen hundred and seventy 18?81 Trinity (? Could be another word!) Holy Church Los Angeles California."

      Right side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Rodney Todd Weight 7lbs 1? ozs On Friday, May 7 197(1 or 6)"

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    • KatyBookworm wrote: Okay, here it is. The full translation - NOT twins. And ... not who we're thinking. There's rumors this was just a rented prop ... could that be true and it all means nothing?

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      Left side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Jason Matthew on Friday the twenty seventh of November ninteen hundred and seventy 18?81 Trinity (? Could be another word!) Holy Church Los Angeles California."

      Right side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Rodney Todd Weight 7lbs 1? ozs On Friday, May 7 197(1 or 6)"

      Mrs.Marin wouldn't sleep with her own son.

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    • if its 1970 and 1976 that person will be her age so he wont be her son 

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    • Also, if it was Marin, surely the initial would be T instead of what looks like H or K. None of the data seems continous, so maybe the person who said it was just a random decretive prop was right. We have a Jason but not the right surname or birth year, we have a possible Marin but not the correct initial and we have a date of birth that doesn't really fit in with any of the characters. Also on the other bit it doesn't add up either.

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    • When I first read the script I automatically saw mr. And Mrs Marin. No doubt about it!

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    • ^ IMO Marin is too short, there are more letters

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    • Marlene did say that everything goes back to Radley sorry if that was off topic bu that was the first thing that I thought of when I read this post

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    • Hanna's mom is hiding something maybe ;)

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    • Maybe it's impossible to read it and it was shot that way by the director because it isn't supposed to be read and it simply just decoration. Maybe we only have to focus on the fact that there's two babies, which means that the two blonde boys are siblings. Who knows though.

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    • Kyanewest wrote:
      Maybe it's impossible to read it and it was shot that way by the director because it isn't supposed to be read and it simply just decoration. Maybe we only have to focus on the fact that there's two babies, which means that the two blonde boys are siblings. Who knows though.

      I think so, 'cause the names and the birth dates juste don't make any sense !

      All we should focus on is that they're siblings, but that they're not twins (otherwise it would have been only one annoucement).

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    • IMO the parents names look like Bill, Sid, Scott, and their lastname could be Rains because it isn't Dilaurentis and I also don't think it's Marin. I think The first is Jason's and may say 1990 because while technically the show is two years behind if they went by real world time then that would add up because my brother is 24 and was born in 1990. Okay onto the next one, the boy's name is most certainly Rodney but I am not sure the middle name is Todd because there's only one high letter at the end. If it's a slightly different font I'm thinking it says Rodney Joel. Here's the crazy thing the year on it does appear to be 74 or 79. What I'm wondering is could the Jason one be born 1970 and Jason and Rodney were Mrs.D's brothers? Maybe they named Jason after one of her brothers? Because Mrs D was supposedly born in the 60's herself there is no way she could have a child born in 1970. Now if it's 1990 then maybe they used real world time. Maybe like the books the Dilaurentis changed their name? I am certain that the second one says a son too and the name is definitely not Bethany. This would be more explainable if it weren't for what appears to be 1974 or 1979 as Rodney's birth year. If you go look at Bethany's sketchbook there is what appears to be 79 in one of her drawings. Also anyone that hasn't already needs to go watch the deleted scene from season 5 finale on Reddit where it shows Ali and Mrs.D and it pretty much confirms there's another son. 

      What if these are Mrs.D's brothers? We do not know her maiden name, but if we go back to the picture of Mrs.Grunwald and her sorority maybe one of the girls in that picture had Mrs.D's last name. maybe thats why A did not want the girls getting their hands on it. IDK what year that pic was supposedly taken or if they said but could a young Mrs.D be in the pic with another name such as Lauren? The last names in the sorority pic was Steere, Baker, Ferry, and Delemos and idk if any of those fit for the last name, but there had to be a reason A didnt want anyone to see it and a reason that A even had it. just a thought.. another odd thing about that pic was that one of the girls looked a lot like Spencer. it wasnt of course, but still odd...

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    • KatyBookworm wrote:
      Okay, here it is. The full translation - NOT twins. And ... not who we're thinking. There's rumors this was just a rented prop ... could that be true and it all means nothing?
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      Left side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Jason Matthew on Friday the twenty seventh of November ninteen hundred and seventy 18?81 Trinity (? Could be another word!) Holy Church Los Angeles California."

      Right side:

      "Mr and Mrs ? Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Rodney Todd Weight 7lbs 1? ozs On Friday, May 7 197(1 or 6)"

      i think the second date is too difficult to make out but this is a damn good reading. I couldnt find a clear enough screenshot for myself 

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    • William DeBiasio said, that this was just a rented prop, and not made for PLL. And I think this is actually true, since all the names and birthdates on there do absolutely not fit together.

      As someone said above, we should just focus on the fact, that there are two birth announcements, so the boys are not twins.

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    • i read Bethany .....

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    • The last name in the birth announcement looks most like "Rose" to me, which is Ella's maiden name. She was born to Jack and Judy Rose. I've been thinking for while that she is involved somehow maybe through siblings or other children that we don't know are related to her. Ella's maiden name was mentioned in 2 out of the 5 episodes I. Marlene King suggested watching during the break before season 6. One of the episodes had a very long shot of her and Byron's wedding invitation which said her maiden name, and the other was the thanksgiving one where Aria mentioned Grandma Rose's pumpkin pie. I also think that the clues that people think point to Aria are actually pointing to someone else in Aria's family. I don't know exactly who or how, but I think Ella or one of her relatives is high up on the A Team. Anyway, that really looks like Rose as a last name to me, and it would make so much sense. We don't know most characters' maiden names, just Ella's, and roses are such a theme in this show. It has to mean something.

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    • -JasonsGirl wrote:
      ^^ IF the birth year is 1990 it can't be Jason, at least not the Jason we know. According to this wikia he is 24. 2012 - 24 = 1988.

      Also he is 7 years older than the liars, who were born 1994-1995. Would also make him born 1987-1988. 

      So either it's not Jason, or it's not 1990, or they made a contunity error. Both possible, but as all the crew members say that they check everything very exactly, I'd rather say it's the first.

      Isn't it 2013 in PLL?

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    • Guys I think the birth thing is just a propp like someone said earlier. Theres a reason why its impossible to read. And the birthdays make no sense

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    • I also thought the one on the left looked like a death announcement, with the Church address being the final resting place. Then the one on the right was a regular birth announcement. 

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    • I think it's a prop but ^^ that makes the most sense to me if it's more than a prop.

      Why do you think there's only one top?

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    • Disneychick01 wrote:
      -JasonsGirl wrote:
      ^^ IF the birth year is 1990 it can't be Jason, at least not the Jason we know. According to this wikia he is 24. 2012 - 24 = 1988.

      Also he is 7 years older than the liars, who were born 1994-1995. Would also make him born 1987-1988. 

      So either it's not Jason, or it's not 1990, or they made a contunity error. Both possible, but as all the crew members say that they check everything very exactly, I'd rather say it's the first.

      Isn't it 2013 in PLL?

      No it is 2012. Ali went missing September 2009. Pilot was set one year later, September 2010 when the liars started their junior year. Season 3 started in the liars senior year (= september 2011). They are still in senior year, (short before graduation) so it's spring 2012

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    • I was 22 in 2012. If Jason was born in 1990, he would be 22 right now (if its 2012 in the show). Has anyone asked Marlene about what month and year it is lmao

      I don't have twiter

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    • BROOKICO wrote: IMO the parents names look like Bill, Sid, Scott, and their lastname could be Rains because it isn't Dilaurentis and I also don't think it's Marin. I think The first is Jason's and may say 1990 because while technically the show is two years behind if they went by real world time then that would add up because my brother is 24 and was born in 1990. Okay onto the next one, the boy's name is most certainly Rodney but I am not sure the middle name is Todd because there's only one high letter at the end. If it's a slightly different font I'm thinking it says Rodney Joel. Here's the crazy thing the year on it does appear to be 74 or 79. What I'm wondering is could the Jason one be born 1970 and Jason and Rodney were Mrs.D's brothers? Maybe they named Jason after one of her brothers? Because Mrs D was supposedly born in the 60's herself there is no way she could have a child born in 1970. Now if it's 1990 then maybe they used real world time. Maybe like the books the Dilaurentis changed their name? I am certain that the second one says a son too and the name is definitely not Bethany. This would be more explainable if it weren't for what appears to be 1974 or 1979 as Rodney's birth year. If you go look at Bethany's sketchbook there is what appears to be 79 in one of her drawings. Also anyone that hasn't already needs to go watch the deleted scene from season 5 finale on Reddit where it shows Ali and Mrs.D and it pretty much confirms there's another son. 

      What if these are Mrs.D's brothers? We do not know her maiden name, but if we go back to the picture of Mrs.Grunwald and her sorority maybe one of the girls in that picture had Mrs.D's last name. maybe thats why A did not want the girls getting their hands on it. IDK what year that pic was supposedly taken or if they said but could a young Mrs.D be in the pic with another name such as Lauren? The last names in the sorority pic was Steere, Baker, Ferry, and Delemos and idk if any of those fit for the last name, but there had to be a reason A didnt want anyone to see it and a reason that A even had it. just a thought.. another odd thing about that pic was that one of the girls looked a lot like Spencer. it wasnt of course, but still odd...

      It def looks like a Bill to me (in the first one at least). However, if that is a Scott that would point to Byron's brother (who I still think had kids with Marion). What was the name of Hanna's crazy uncle?

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    • And there is no way that's just a prop. It was in shot way too long.

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    • ^ I think the reason we were shown it, was to figure out the boys are not twins. And of course to make just this happen, lots of speculation and confusing people. If they were twins, there would have been only one birth announcement. That's what we should concentrate on, nothing more.

      As I already said, the names on there make absolutely no sense put together. We have a possible "Jason", but wether the right parents nor the right birthdate, nor the right birth place (most likely, since they were said to live in Atlanta that time). We have a possible "Bethany" but it says "birth of a son" and again not a matching birthdate.

      The names of the parents are none that we know. No last name on the show fits into there, and I really searched for every possible name, also maiden names, if we know them. They all have wether a higher letter (like t, d, f, h, k, l, b,) or a lower letter like (q, p, g, j, y) included, or they are simply to long or to short, start with a wrong letter... (like, Marin, Fields, Rose) to be the name standing on the announcement.

      So either it is a family which we don't know yet, which would totally annoy me, since we are only 6 episodes from the said A reveal... or the names on there simply don't mean anything and we shouldn't make more out of it than it is. 2 birth announcements of two boys, not twins.

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    • Just saying...

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    • It's definitely Jason Matthew and Bethany Jill. Does it mean that jason was adopted?

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    • I think those are middle names. Sorry if that was obvious to you guys or you already knew that.

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    • Jason wasnt adopted remember jason is the son of mrs dilaurentis and spencers dad

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    • ^ Could be a lie... just saying, not that far fetched in that family.

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    • It is NOT Bethany. There aren't two 'high letters'. To me it looks more like a Rodery Todd or something. Also, the dates do match. The first one says "Friday, the twenty seventh of November, nineteen hundred and seventy", and the second one says "Sunday, May 7, 1972". They're both real dates. It bothers me that they're written in a different way though.. 

      but anyway, it means that this Jason might not be our Jason. If the dates are correct, and in PLL world it's like.. 2012? It means the both boys would be somewhere in their 40s.  

      Which made me think of this; Maybe it's someone's uncle, or just an older person they know. While posting this theory on twitter, someone told me she saw the 'Todd' as 'Tedd'. 

      Do we actually know Ted's name is spelled Ted and not Tedd? 

      Also, the last name looks like "Al ........" to me. I have a picture which is more obvious to read than yours. I included it now. (this is my first post ever so idk how it's gonna appear xd)
      IMG 9350

      Do we know anyone who's Italian? IS TEDD ITALIAN?

      Maybe you can help me figure this out, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the less blurry picture! 

      Kind regards,

      Cassandra xoxo

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    • I don't know what anyone thinks but the last names on the birth announcements kind of look like Rivers to me.

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    • Birth Announcement
      you know, I just saw episode 4 and I think Caleb might be the "A" because he said he put a tracker on Hanna's car and...if you didnt watch the episode yet, I dont wanna spoil it. But I think you will see how I can make the connection.
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    • Does anyone have a macbook? I do, and the font "Snell Roudhand" kinda looks like it. It's the closest one I can find :/ 

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    • Screenshot 2015-06-29j at 21.34.27
      Basically, I was floating about trying to decipher more of this image; the surname of the parent's - the first letter looks to me like an R or a P? Possibly Parsons? I don't know where that name came from, like someone said, it might just be something they came up with to pass the time or whatever... But I just zoomed in on the image to try & work something out.

      Does anyone see this, or am I just hallucinating lol...

      Opinions appreciated :)

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    • For some reason I see Al Rosene or Rasene. Maybe its Andrews biological parents...I mean what if Andrew and Jason were both adopted but only Jason was kept in the family. But its confusing. The only was I see this is if Peter changed his name for the announcement...since he's the biological dad..Unless this is a different Jason in the announcement. Regardless of the last name, I'm 99% sure that says Al. Unless theres a period and its something like A.l. But the second letter isnt capital so I think its Al

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    • Itsasecretshh wrote:
      For some reason I see Al Rosene or Rasene. Maybe its Andrews biological parents...I mean what if Andrew and Jason were both adopted but only Jason was kept in the family. But its confusing. The only was I see this is if Peter changed his name for the announcement...since he's the biological dad..Unless this is a different Jason in the announcement. Regardless of the last name, I'm 99% sure that says Al. Unless theres a period and its something like A.l. But the second letter isnt capital so I think its Al

      I also saw Rosene, or something similar along those lines... But I don't familiarise with the surname at all... I'm trying to work out the initials also. It is possible someone changed their name along the line, anythings possible on pll. But it could also be a random thing the prop people thought up & it wasn't meant to be looked too deeply into, as I'm sure someone has already mentioned. You never know though...

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    • SierraMc wrote:
      I agree about the traditional format...it looks like they used Mr and Mrs. husbands first and last name. Its so hard to read though :( 

      To me, it looks like Mr. and Mrs. Bill? Something? could the last name be Marin?

      Then on the first announcements, it looks like Jason Hastings to me. 

      On the bottom it looks like XXX, California



      Maybe the creators just threw something together, idk lol

      I also think that's Marin but I don't know if that makes any sense

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    • its just a prop. I posted elsewhere and was told off. its just a meaningless prop

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    • Itsasecretshh wrote: its just a prop. I posted elsewhere and was told off. its just a meaningless prop

      I refuse to believe it's just a prop. The creators lie all the time to try and throw us off and the camera was on that picture way too long to not have some meaning x

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    • I thibk it really is just a prob and the words arent meant to be read just the pictures mean there are two boys, brothers and thats what we were meant to get from it that charles is jasons brother.

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    • Cassandra xoxo wrote:
      It is NOT Bethany. There aren't two 'high letters'. To me it looks more like a Rodery Todd or something. Also, the dates do match. The first one says "Friday, the twenty seventh of November, nineteen hundred and seventy", and the second one says "Sunday, May 7, 1972". They're both real dates. It bothers me that they're written in a different way though.. 

      but anyway, it means that this Jason might not be our Jason. If the dates are correct, and in PLL world it's like.. 2012? It means the both boys would be somewhere in their 40s.  

      Which made me think of this; Maybe it's someone's uncle, or just an older person they know. While posting this theory on twitter, someone told me she saw the 'Todd' as 'Tedd'. 

      Do we actually know Ted's name is spelled Ted and not Tedd? 

      Also, the last name looks like "Al ........" to me. I have a picture which is more obvious to read than yours. I included it now. (this is my first post ever so idk how it's gonna appear xd)
      IMG 9350

      Do we know anyone who's Italian? IS TEDD ITALIAN?

      Maybe you can help me figure this out, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the less blurry picture! 

      Kind regards,

      Cassandra xoxo

      I came to the same conclusions. This is Mr & Mrs Ad or At. I don't know if in english it's a diminituve for smtg.(like Macblabla etc).

      The left one:  

      Mr & Mrs At (/Ad or Ai)  S or L ????

      take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son

      Jason Matthews

      on Friday, 1970, the 27th on November 

      ???? S??? Holly (with 2 L !!) C?????

      Los Angeles, CA


      The right one :

      Mr & Mrs At (/Ad or Ai)  S or L ????

      take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son

      Rodney/Radley Todd.

      on Sunday, May 7, 1972

      Weight 7lbs 12 (??  = "ozs" maybe)

      Los Angeles, CA

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    • it kind of looks like its "Mr & Mrs M or H" to me

      also the birth dates of the babies (1970 & 1972) make them much older than the liars.  These baby pictures are of people who are now in their 40's...im guessing someones parents.

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    • It also shows something huge, Charles or whoever is the second one baby annoucement, is YOUNGER than Jason.

      Kenneth told Alison the total opposite...

      So, it's not "our" Jason Dilaurentis. It's about two other babies. I'm naturally thinking about

      Byron and Scott Montgomery.

      And if the second name is really Bethany Jill (which it'd make more sense), the only female character born in 1972 is Ella Montgomery.

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    • -JasonsGirl wrote:
      William DeBiasio said, that this was just a rented prop, and not made for PLL. And I think this is actually true, since all the names and birthdates on there do absolutely not fit together.

      As someone said above, we should just focus on the fact, that there are two birth announcements, so the boys are not twins.

      I agree with this. I know PLL is constantly dropping small hints everywhere but I really don't think the actual words on the birth announcement mean anything besides the fact they weren't twins.

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    • I do think its just a prob but a bit of coinsodence one of the names cleary is jason

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    • I agree, that's unfortunately nothing more than a prop... It clearly says Los Angeles, California is where the birth occurred, and the people work on PLL in California... Someone just found a double sons birth certificate that had Jason as one of the boys' names.

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    • We know the Dilaurentis lived in California for a while. They came back to Rosewood when Jason was 10 and Alison was 5.

      Peter Hastings told Spencer ^^


      But it's completely possible that's just a prop. I'd prefer --' , we just like to play with what we find x))

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    • I would have liked it if it was more than just a prop cuz then it would give us some clues to play with = P

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    • Sometimes I've got the feeling al the parents accidently exchanged their kids at hospital or something :D

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    • lol it does seem like that or everyones related somehow... like thats your 2nd cousin from your fathers side.

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    • I think it's just a prop. If the first one is Jason, then the second can't be Charles. Charles is supposed to be 15 months older than Jason, yet these babies appear to be the same age. It can't be Bethany either because she's at least a year younger than Jason. 

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    • To me it honestly looks like the last name is Pieterse. Could this really be Sasha's dad's birth announcement or something and they just used it as a prop?

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    • Maybe it means Jason Matthews, because there will be a new character named Reese Matthews and he looks very similar to Jason and maybe Jason was adopted or something like this and Reese is his Brother or Twin.....

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    • GUYS

      'JASON MATTHEWS'

      Who else has a similar last name?

      Rhys Matthews! What if it says Jason Matthews not Matthew. Or better yet- what if it says Rhys Matthews on the birth announcement?

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    • My god... Is it POSSIBLE that Charles was originally named Rodney Todd Young... but since Mrs. D. and Mr. Young were in a forbidden relationship and Mr. Young wasn't married at the time, then Rodney had his name changed to Charles and Mrs. D. convinced Mr. D. that he was his son all along?

      Rhys is a fake name and he took Jason's middle name as his surname... Rhys doesn't look as much like Jason as he does WREN... He's even potentially British or stuck with remnants of a British accent probably from faking it for so long... If Rhys is in fact Charles... a literal blond Wren... then the girls could have come face to face with him and never even know it until the finale... which would be brilliant of the writers and reminds me a lot of the Mona receiving "A" texts thing before SHE was revealed as "A"... Amazing job analyzing these birth certificates... because even if it's a prop, the writers can make it fit into the story this way... Marlene's making a big deal about Rhys' involvement in the show... and they could have easily changed his name from Rodney on the birth certificate and used Jason's middle name for Rhys' last name... It all makes perfect sense... It could also mean that only ONE of the birth certificates was a prop and the other one was intentionally made...

      They would make their own for Jason Matthew, but could make whatever they wanted for the original name of Charles.

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    • The left one says, 

      Mr and Mrs H Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Jason Matthew on Friday the twenty second of November, nineteen hundred and seventy. 18481 Trinity holy church Los Angeles California.

      The right one says,

      Mr. And Mrs. K Marin take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son Rodney Todd weight 7 lbs. 12 Oz's. On Friday may 7, 1976 Los Angeles, California

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    • I see mr. and mrs. K Marin...

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    • maybe it's not "Todd" , it's "Fredd" as Mrs. D. called him freddy...

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    • i think it says mr and mrs k marin

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    • Lilux wrote:
      Cassandra xoxo wrote:
      It is NOT Bethany. There aren't two 'high letters'. To me it looks more like a Rodery Todd or something. Also, the dates do match. The first one says "Friday, the twenty seventh of November, nineteen hundred and seventy", and the second one says "Sunday, May 7, 1972". They're both real dates. It bothers me that they're written in a different way though.. 

      but anyway, it means that this Jason might not be our Jason. If the dates are correct, and in PLL world it's like.. 2012? It means the both boys would be somewhere in their 40s.  

      Which made me think of this; Maybe it's someone's uncle, or just an older person they know. While posting this theory on twitter, someone told me she saw the 'Todd' as 'Tedd'. 

      Do we actually know Ted's name is spelled Ted and not Tedd? 

      Also, the last name looks like "Al ........" to me. I have a picture which is more obvious to read than yours. I included it now. (this is my first post ever so idk how it's gonna appear xd)
      IMG 9350

      Do we know anyone who's Italian? IS TEDD ITALIAN?

      Maybe you can help me figure this out, I'd love to hear your thoughts on the less blurry picture! 

      Kind regards,

      Cassandra xoxo

      I came to the same conclusions. This is Mr & Mrs Ad or At. I don't know if in english it's a diminituve for smtg.(like Macblabla etc).

      The left one:  

      Mr & Mrs At (/Ad or Ai)  S or L ????

      take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son

      Jason Matthews

      on Friday, 1970, the 27th on November 

      ???? S??? Holly (with 2 L !!) C?????

      Los Angeles, CA


      The right one :

      Mr & Mrs At (/Ad or Ai)  S or L ????

      take pleasure in announcing the birth of a son

      Rodney/Radley Todd.

      on Sunday, May 7, 1972

      Weight 7lbs 12 (??  = "ozs" maybe)

      Los Angeles, CA

      Even if it is just a prop, i still want to let people know what that address line says haha

      After a lot of squinting and googling i can say with absolute certainty that on the first announcement the adress is (10729?? i think)

      " Summer Holly Circle, Los Angelas California"  

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    • I see Rivers or Ravens. That is either a R or a P.

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    • i see either bradly todd or bethany young aha idk

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    • I believe after viewing some of your great screen shots ,that the birth announcements are for 1) Jamie Matthew Rivers

      And

      2)Radley Todd Rivers

      Caleb has the last name Rivers. He found out the man he always thought was his uncle( Jamie Rivers) was his birth father. Having those two announcements in his soul room tells me Caleb is Charles. Please see my other post about this. Couldn't have figured it out without your all great screen shots!!

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    • I think Radley might have been named after his uncle Radley.

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    • Well. I made a mistake. The second birth announcement was Rodney not Radley, but as I was reading the thread here it took forever for someone to realize that if this boy was born in 1970, the so called Jason birth announcement that I think is Jamie Rivers, he could NOT BE OUR JASON as he would be in his forties!!!!!

      That is another reason why I think the birth announcement is for JAMIE RIVERS( Caleb's dad) and Jamie's brother Rodney who Caleb thought was his birth father for many years until Hannah helped figure out who his dad is.

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    • Discovering A: it canNOT be Charles or Rhys's birth certificate as both men are a WHOLE GENERATION younger than these birth certificates read. These birth certificates are for two men who would be in their late 40s now, not their 20s like Jason or Charles or Rhys because they were born in 1970 and 1972

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    • I just read on Reddit that someone from the show rented that picture of the babies as a prop. His name was Wm. Dibasio. Something like that.

      But you know what? I don't believe him. I think it def pointed to Caleb and the Rivers family. Maybe they decided it would upset the shippers too much,so they changed villains

      I'm so sick of the ships determining the show. Life isn't like that. We don't all get happily ever afters. That's reality

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    • I would've loved for that to point to Caleb to be honest. I love Haleb, but something like this is the exact twist we need..

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    • Definitely agree Rivers is the last name.  If the DiLaurentis' lived in California for a time, who is to say they didn't know Caleb's family?

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    • I agree this would be a great twist.

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    • KatyBookworm wrote:
      It's just the font. A lot of cursive fonts will do that when you have two capital letters in a name, it'll almost look like a space between both parts, so it looks like "Di Laurentis".

      It is possible that it's another last name, but to me it looks like the second part starts with an "L" and ends with an "S", and with the first part being so short, I'm not sure what else it could be. The first baby name is definitely "J___ Matthew", almost certainly "Jason Matthew", which has me leaning towards DiLaurentis as well.

      I think it's Mr. and Mrs. Readly!!! Maybe they were the creators of the Readly Sanitarium!!!

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    • I don't know, in all honesty it doesn't even look like Rivers or Radley to me. Definitely not Marin.

      'Jason Matthews' can't be Jamie Matthews, because there is no blurred dot where an "i" should be, like it appears on every other "i" in the frame. The last names look like a "P" that's shifted over to the other letters. This font is typically very scaled together, so that "R" could even be a "P". Anybody who's done a PLL graphic and used their logo font or fonts alike, all of the letters are in italic, so it's very condensed.

      Caleb would be a great story though, considering we've been hearing all throughout the series how he's been fostered from family to family and he's always pushed to know what's going on in Hanna's life.


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      Can't be "Rodney", as there is no dark emphasized dot between the "R" and "d"

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